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OK this is the problem I'm having as of right now I am a BM hunter with maybe 2.5 dps now I've seen it get higher but that is about average and it needs and should be higher. I've tried different rotations and respec my tree and can't seem to get it any higher. Right now my rotation is
hunters mark
serpent sting
steady shot x 4
arcane shot
then I repeat Serpent sting whenever it's done. I'm always using my dragonhawk aspect until I run outta mana then I switch of course. I'm all in T9 gear now please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
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What your doing wrong is your not in a dps spec. Try surv or MM
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Dkmike wrote:
What your doing wrong is your not in a dps spec. Try surv or MM


:beee:

...I was taught that if I can't say anything nice to not say anything at all. :glare:

I swear if I see one more person say that BM is not a viable DPS/raid spec and only a BG spec I will melt down. :club:


I'm not the be all and end all of BM know how but my info is better then a 'respec noob' so with that here is my $0.02 :P

I'll throw up my macros to see if they will help ya later when I'm on my other computer that has WoW on it.

There is a wealth of info for all specs over at WHU (http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/). The writer Frostheim is the same guy that writes the Scatter Shot hunter articles over at WoW insider (http://wow.joystiq.com) heads up that site. A couple other sites that I use for my toons that help in different ways are wow popular(http://www.wowpopular.com/) that shows what most people are using for talents, glyphs, gear, enchants and gems broken down my class and spec. It is a quick and fast thing for looking up the names. Also for general info wowhead.com and wowwiki.com do wonders.

The quick and dirty of BM is thus:
-For the best non-raid gear check out this article of Frostheim's: http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/04/05/scatt ... out-raids/
Hit the new ICC 5 mans for some great 232 gear. FoS/H FoS, PoS/H PoS, HoR/H HoR

-Stat caps:
BM Hunter Haste Cap
0 (zero) Haste Rating is needed to reach the BM hunter haste cap.

That’s right, zero, zip, nada. BM hunters are automatically at the haste cap.

Hunter Hit Rating
For a level 80 hunter, 32.79 hit rating gives you 1% hit.
263 Hit Rating is needed to reach the Hit Cap
With 3/3 Focused Aim 164 Hit Rating is needed to reach the hit cap
With 2/3 Focused Aim 197 Hit Rating is needed to reach the hit cap
With 1/3 Focused Aim 230 Hit Rating is needed to reach the hit cap

Is Armor Pen Better Than Agility?

For the majority of hunters the answer is no. Agility is better than armor pen (for MM and SV). You should not use armor pen gems, and you should not use armor pen food – you should stack agility. You will do less damage stacking armor pen than if you use agility/attack power in those slots. Obviously BM hunters prefer attack power over agility or armor pen.

The reason is that all that attack power helps our pet and like one guy joked with me on a run about a BM hunter pet he saw was named "HalfmyDPS" and that is the reason that we stack attack... because it is true our pets are a great deal of our DPS.

So after you either have the right amount of hit from your gear or gemming for it throw either Bright Cardinal Ruby (Epic +40 Attack Power) or if you don't have the gold Bright Scarlet Ruby (rare +32 Attack Power) into most of the other slots except for a Swift Starflare Diamond in your heads meta slot and a Nightmare Tear in your belt's 'enchated' slot.

Enchant all the gear that you can, which is easy if you disenchant the stuff you don't need from runs and use the gems you get to get your gear enchanted.

-Specking can very here and there but most agree on most of the same talents.
Looking again at WHU here is a good looking build: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/200 ... aid-build/

If you are on a lowbie fill out your BM tree before venturing into anything else.

-Pet specking:

Ditto for looking up your pet spec: http://www.warcrafthuntersunion.com/200 ... ent-build/

Ferocity pets (list of all the ferocity pets thx to Petopia: http://www.wow-petopia.com/search.php?s ... e=&spawn=0) are the best DPS pets out there. Unlike all the rest of the SV and MM hunters the BEST DPS BM pet is the devilsaur (http://www.wow-petopia.com/family/devilsaur.html). It is the BiS (best in slot) as of right now.



Anyway this is just a bit of info that I thought would be much more helpful them 'respect nub'. It might not all be exact perfect but it will get you going. BM is very enjoyably and even though it brings up the rear in DPS it is only by a lil bit. :D
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Thanks Ambian for boiling down this info. I try to keep up with the info at the various Hunter sites, but as a new 80 BM, it's a lot to take in.

I'm thinking that Frostheim or one of the other authors were saying not to worry much about DPS right now as Blizz is still tweaking this.
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since the new patch 4.0.1 bm hunter dps for has been fun for 5 man raids and fairly simple now. although for 10 man raids i suggest a mm or surv build there is nothing wrong with a bm build. the rotation i am using is hunters mark serpent sting and spam arcane shot till focus is out then steady shot till serpent sting is done then start over with arcane. i usually do about 7-8k dps like this not sure if ti is best but hopfully it will help. also one thing to the hunter that said armpen wasnt the best gem for mm i think. it was the best gem for mm hunters before patch. with the right amount of armorpen a mm hunter owned in dps hands down but that is neither her nor there because it is out of the game now. not sure what the dps difference is for bm hunters using attack power now because all my gear is used for my surv spec but agility sems to be doing great. i only use a different color to satisfy my meta gem.
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You're forgetting the BM Hunter's bread-and-butter ability; Kill Command. It's very similar to Explosive Shot in its usage; it takes priority over Arcane Shot but under Kill Shot.
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