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1. PVP Items » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:52 am

I outgear a lot of people in my guild and my score is lower than most of the guild. I do have a lot of Hateful Glad items and the Craftable level 78 pvp set. Do these pvp items not give you points? My character name is Leonitas I am on Dethecus US. Thanks

Bl4ckSh33p

2. Re: PVP Items » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:50 pm

you should have less points with pvp gear, resilence is just useless for Raids (PvE).

Milagros

Site Admin

3. Re: PVP Items » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:04 pm

Wow-heroes is PvE based web site ,like Bl4ckSh33p already said resilience isn't good for PvE environment.
Gear with resilience will just down rank your overall score.

Lomewen

4. Re: PVP Items » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:10 pm

I know that PvP items are generally hurt by the resilience, but for bear tanks
PvP items still happen to beat heroic gear for many slots.

But seems it is a bit too harsh. I upgraded from 2 lesser PvP items, Vengeful
gladiator's helm and eviscerator's shoulderpads to Savage gladiator's
dragonhide helm and spaulders.

Gains:

AP +76, dodge +0.87%, crit +0.85%, resilience +56, stamina +66 and some
armor.

Lost:

-8 hit, -12 armor penetration, -29 int.

so seems like a clear upgrade. But I lost 3 points in score. Is the resilience
penalty actually so large that upgrading lesser PvP items to better ones you
lose score?

Milagros

Site Admin

5. Re: PVP Items » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:36 pm

Lomewen wrote:
so seems like a clear upgrade. But I lost 3 points in score. Is the resilience
penalty actually so large that upgrading lesser PvP items to better ones you
lose score?

I hope you enchanted those items and used gems before you looked your score .

Lomewen

6. Re: PVP Items » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:39 pm

Of course. It was the raw gear score that dropped by 3.

Milagros

Site Admin

7. Re: PVP Items » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:46 pm

We will check this problem as soon as possible ,that doesnt seem right.

ShahofBlah

8. Re: PVP Items » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:12 pm

I have the same problem
Hateful Gladiators silk Trousers and Cowl
itemrating gone down by 47 points swapping a rare level 187 hood for an epic level 200 cowl
yes i know about the uselessness of resilience in PvE
but basically swapped 44 hit for 44 crit and 35 more spellpower
i know i am not hitcapped but 47 gearpoints LESS ?

On wowheroes both my Hateful gladiator items say "requires 1645 personal and arena rating"
it does not say so in-game
all the stats of both Hateful Gladiator items are credited to me
?

Milagros

Site Admin

9. Re: PVP Items » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:42 pm

ShahofBlah please give us your zone ,realm and character name ,and what items did you had before ?
As you know wow-heroes is for PvE rating not PvP ,so for resilience you get penalty. Raw gear score will roughly stay unchanged if u had blue items lvl 187 ,but it should improve if you put PvE gems and enchants.

ShahofBlah

10. Re: PVP Items » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:04 pm

Thanks for your rapid response!

Bonze Dragonflight
Iucounu

had : Hat of wintry doom
Lvl 187 228A 69St 46Int 53SP 44Hit + bonus 8Int

now : Hateful Gladiator's Silk Cowl
lvl 200 244A 102St 45Int 87SP 44Crit 43Res+ bonus 8Res

compare new item + 16A +33St -9Int +34SP - 44Hit +44Crit (not counting the PvE useless resilience)

same enchants same gems

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