- Re: Update
Posted by AcesWild25 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:13 am
- http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Windrunner&n=Executed http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Windrunner&n=Aceswild Update me as well if you can pleas...
- Re: Admin Response Please?
Posted by AcesWild25 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:39 pm
- P.S. Why would the Medalion PVP trinket even get a score? lol It is NO good in raids except for VERY few fights I.E. Mt Hyjal (EPIC or not) and there is a few PVP pieces that are a...
- Re: Admin Response Please?
Posted by AcesWild25 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:36 pm
- While i see what you are both saying and I do agree with your points of view, I still disagee with some. I have been to hyjal on my priest and BT. Some failure in both was seen man...
- Admin Response Please?
Posted by AcesWild25 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:55 pm
- So I have left a couple of forum posts but no admins have responed yet? I yet again found what I think is a unfair PVP vs PVE gear rating. Go to Zone:US Server: Windrunner Characte...
- Re: Point System (Rating System)
Posted by AcesWild25 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:20 pm
- You could also add in the Enchants and Gems ETC. Example ------- (Item Name) (+141 Points for Item) (-50 for Resilence) (+10 for Enchant) (+10 for Gem) (+10 for Gem ) Total Score f...
- Point System (Rating System)
Posted by AcesWild25 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:14 pm
- On the character pages, that individually show the items your wearing and the score for each of them. Why not make a section below the Base, Melee & Ranged, and Spell stats are...
- Re: Druid tank
Posted by AcesWild25 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:20 pm
- Idol of Terror is a IDOL LOL its NOT a Trinket.
You are 100% right....its an awesome IDOL, but NOT a Trinket.
- Voodoo Shaker
Posted by AcesWild25 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:13 pm
- Yeah I know I am probably getting annoying....... I noticed on WowArmory.com it has Aran's Soothing Sapphire as being a better upgrade for my Priest compared to Voodoo Shaker. If y...
- Re: Gear Question
Posted by AcesWild25 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:01 pm
- I just thought of a good idea?!! ha ha Maybe you guys could make an area on the profile pages that show how many points your being deducted for wearing Reseilence Gear? That would ...
- Gear Question
Posted by AcesWild25 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:26 pm
- The best and esiest way to do this would probably be by asking you to go ahead and pull up these two Characters: Zone: US Sever: Windrunner Characters: Aceswild and Biggies I was h...
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P.S. Why would the Medalion PVP trinket even get a score? lol It is NO good in raids except for VERY few fights I.E. Mt Hyjal (EPIC or not)
and there is a few PVP pieces that are almost as good as they get I.E. The Gurdian Neclace, bracers, and maybe some rings? Thats a bout it though........the game is WORTHLESS if all you have to do to raid all the way through BT is PVP.
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While i see what you are both saying and I do agree with your points of view, I still disagee with some. I have been to hyjal on my priest and BT. Some failure in both was seen many times, but I remained a top healer through out MH and BT when I went. I have seen guys in FULL brutal gear within MH and BT who fail horribly. Yes the survivalbility is WAY better than someone in Executed's gear, but I can out heal someone in Brutal Gear before I kick the buckett. Normally way before I can die the Brutal gear priest is out of mana. Let me tell you, its like punching the gas on a 69 Camero, you can just watch the gas disappear. This is the same case for a brutal geared priest. You can watch his mana burn away in seconds. A priest with low regen is as worthless if not more so than a dead one. (ONLY AN OPINION) While a priest surviability is somewhat important not more so than his healing. With the correct group you shouldnt have to worry about dying. Now the healing factor plays about 85% skill, doesnt matter what the gear is if they dont have a clue how to heal correctly (I know this has nothing to do with gear scoring).
In the long run all i am saying is PVE is built more on your stats than surviabilty. I want someone in my group who can put out the big heals, like I said with the correct grouping you shouldnt worry about non-sense deaths. PVP gear is a nice way to go when you start raiding, but its made to PVP not raid. T6 Equivelent it is NOT. You need to re-check your stats. If this was the case you would never have a need or reason to step into MH or BT. I do my fair share of PVP as i have quite a few pieces in my bag, but I do not wear them unless I am PVP like there made for. You cant base PVP gear on the (ONE) reason that you survive longer. I can out heal anyone in PVP gear within a raid there just NO comparison, I dont care if they are in full Brutal.
Now i do see your point in Gems but that still doesnt answer why his score is So much higher as i still would think it would be lower from all the resielnce nerfs its supposed to be recieving. I dont know....like I said, you have an AMAZING site here and I mention it to EVERYONE! However, i am sure to tell them before they visit that it isnt always the best way to determine someones Raid Ready Level. I personally see a few faults that makes it very hard to decide when going by the site, but a good place to start your search. Badge gear is T6 Equivelent not brutal Gear. Maybe it would help if i seen the scoring you decifer out of it all, but that is like your secret ingredient ha ha
Its like your replacing the one stat (Stamina) with all the other stats I.E. BH, MP5, Intellect and such. The BT fight you spoke of needing 8500 unbuffed and me not meeting that is not true either. i have done the fight and survived. Maybe I just had an exceptional group w/ exceptional buffs, but I still was a top healer in my petty badge and kara gear. haha
I shall leave you alone on this matter now though as i know you are a BUSY man with all the crys and complaints you get from people like me. lol I hope you don't think I am unapprieciated of your site because thats not it at all. Just trying to understand it more and stat some opinions that my friends and i were seeing? In all --- Im just trying to help a little? ha ha Keep up all the good work!!
Aceswild (Windrunner)
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So I have left a couple of forum posts but no admins have responed yet?
I yet again found what I think is a unfair PVP vs PVE gear rating.
Go to Zone:US Server: Windrunner Characters: Executed and Slipknots
If you will compare the gear and stats on those two names, you will see that there is a huge difference.
Slipknots is wearing completely Arena (PVP) Gear excluding one badge gear piece. Score 725
Executed has very few pvp pieces and the rest are Badge/Kara Gear. Score 633
Executed also has more Bonus Healing and Mana Regen both in and out. More Haste. Which are big raiding needs for a Preist healer.
Executed has a lower score than Slipknots. I dont understand how that can be full PVP gear that is supposed to be getting a nerf due to the Reselince. It seems obvious that Executed is by far the better raid equivelant healer.
It also shows that Slipknots suggested instances are MH and BT. I dont see how Slipknots would ever heal either of them in his gear. If I had to have to select one of the two healers for a raid in MH or BT I would without a doubt pick Executed. Especially since MH and BT can be such MANA HEAVY needed healers.
Anyway, if a admin could just explain to me #1 the scoring process and #2 If you disagree with what I am seeing?
If anything I figure the scores should be switched, since this is a raiding (PVE) website. It as all ways is a descent site to go by for lower levels especially, but at the moment needs higher end upgrades. These two are perfect examples of why I cant always depend on this site to make a decision when it comes to instance ready raiders.
As always thanks for the hard work you are all doing to improve this site....it is an amazing one.
AcesWild aka Executed
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You could also add in the Enchants and Gems ETC.
Example
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(Item Name)
(+141 Points for Item)
(-50 for Resilence)
(+10 for Enchant)
(+10 for Gem)
(+10 for Gem )
Total Score for item = 121
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On the character pages, that individually show the items your wearing and the score for each of them. Why not make a section below the Base, Melee & Ranged, and Spell stats area that breaks down the scores Negative and Postive points that show how the site comes up with the Overall Score that your character is receiving?
Example:
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(Item Name) +141 Points (-50 for Resilence) = 91
(Item Name) +115 Points (-20 for Resilence) = 95
(Total Score) 91 + 95 = 186
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Idol of Terror is a IDOL LOL its NOT a Trinket.
You are 100% right....its an awesome IDOL, but NOT a Trinket.
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I just thought of a good idea?!! ha ha
Maybe you guys could make an area on the profile pages that show how many points your being deducted for wearing Reseilence Gear? That would sure sum things up a little easier.
Ace
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The best and esiest way to do this would probably be by asking you to go ahead and pull up these two Characters:
Zone: US
Sever: Windrunner
Characters: Aceswild and Biggies
I was hoping someone could better explain the rating system for gear. I know that somehow gear with Resilence can deduct points from your score, but i don't understand where and how you come up with the point scale for deduction. If you compare these two characters you will see that his score is really close to mine...however...he has 9 pieces of PVP gear compared to my 3 pieces. Just wondering if anyone could help be better understand this? I figured they would get hit for a bigger deduction than they do? Can you lay out the point system for rating for me?
As always AWESOME site! I know you guys are working hard to improve it everyday and you have a lot of questions coming in everyday...but you guys do an outstanding job with answering them.
Thanks,
AcesWild
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