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Re: Profession specific advantages
Posted by Daedie » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:38 pm
Bonuses are far from equal. Saying that the 500 HP you get from mining is worth the same 30 points as the 48 stam you get from ring enchants (roughly 480 hp) is passable (even tho...

Profession specific advantages
Posted by Daedie » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:14 pm
Hi, I want to report a little issue with profession specific advantages. The website seems to account for ring enchants, and grants extra points for them. it doesn't seem to accoun...

Re: 2 handed weapon enchants vs. 2 1 handed weapon enchants
Posted by Daedie » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:24 pm
Actually, Exec/mongoose on 2H has a higher uptime then the same enchant on a 1H. Cause of the ppm system, slow 2H have a higher chance per hit to proc the enchant, but they hit slo...

Re: DPS warriors
Posted by Daedie » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:22 am
Since any selfrespecting warrior has 5/5 in the improved battleshout talent. it becomes 82 instead of 70 :). the 70 is part of the battleshout so the talents for battleshout natura...

DPS warriors
Posted by Daedie » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:11 pm
Somehow my warrior seems to be rated quite a bit more poorly then i would suspect, since there are only 3 rather minor upgrades left for me in BT/MH Some suggestions on this: Trink...

Re: Profession specific advantages
Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:38 pm
by Daedie
Forum: Suggestions

DeliaBH wrote:
Bonuses are far from equal. Saying that the 500 HP you get from mining is worth the same 30 points as the 48 stam you get from ring enchants (roughly 480 hp) is passable (even tho straight HP doesnt scale with talents/knigs), but that the 25 crit from skinning is equal to the additional 33 crit you get from Smooth Dragon's Eyes vs Smooth Autumn's Glows, is just silly. This isnt even taking into account things like: Dragon's Eyes fit ANY slot for socket bonuses.

Gathering bonuses are supposed a kindof "hey cool, I got a little bonus as well as being able to make money/fund a crafting proffesion" they for the most part aren't equivalent to the bonuses you get from crafting. Which is as it should be, gathering is free to level, often netting income during the leveling process, and can often be leveled while questing. Crafting proffessions for the most part cost a large amount of gold or resources to level, net little to no return until very high level, and most often can only be leveled in a town, as such, they deserve better bonuses.

So in the end, I'm not saying disclude gathering bonuses if you end up giving points for these things, but in no way would they be worth 30 points.

They are close enough in the context of this website, everything is already a pretty rough estimation (cause it's just based on ilevel etc.), like my trinket being only ilevel 200 but still the best ingame. Many similar examples can be given. And in the context of this estimation awarding similar points for skinning and BS is pretty acceptable.

But that's even beside the issue. I'm just making a point of the fact that only enchanters are getting awarded 30 points and other professions nothing. the give everyone 30 points for their profession is basically a suggestion for a quick "good enough" bandaid fix.

Re: DPS warriors
Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:22 am
by Daedie
Forum: Warrior

Since any selfrespecting warrior has 5/5 in the improved battleshout talent. it becomes 82 instead of 70 . the 70 is part of the battleshout so the talents for battleshout naturally also apply on the bonus ^^.

I also saw that i have currently cacaclysm's edge equipped, which was a boost for my rating. Normally i have 2x vengeful weapons tho, which seemed to drag down my score.

About the pvp gear, it's ofcourse expected that in the beta these might give some kind of goofy score cause for most classes pvp gear is terrible in pve and the scores are not class-specific yet. But that's why I posted some constructive feedback on it ^^.

You can judge the value of brutal (and possibly vengeful) on http://www.maxdps.com which i find pretty accurate for everything except trinkets . You will see that every Brutal piece except gloves and possibly shoulders perform on par with T6 .

Greetz ^^.

EDIT: I also want to say that your site looks great and is very useful. And I like how you are open for public feedback. Keep up the nice work .

DPS warriors
Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:11 pm
by Daedie
Forum: Warrior

Somehow my warrior seems to be rated quite a bit more poorly then i would suspect, since there are only 3 rather minor upgrades left for me in BT/MH

Some suggestions on this:

Trinkets:
- Bonus for solarian's sapphire: Even though it's from TK and it has relatively low itemlevel, it's still the best trinket by far to use in raid environments. it supplies 5 ppl with 82 attack power each. That's 410 attack power in a full melee group. No trinket comes close to such a bonus atm. Imho it should receive a bonus to be on par with ilevel 146 gear or more.

- Bonus for Shard of contempt: Apart from the sapphire, the only competitor for this trinket is the SWP one. It surpasses all trinkets in BT, so it should receive a bonus to receive a bonus to be on par with ilevel ~146 as well.

I think it's possible to give bonusses to certain items since penalties are possible as well?

PvP gear:
Then I think PvP gear is receiving way too large penalties for warriors, even though pvp gear isn't considered class specific yet, i think it should be, since it's very great dps gear for warriors.

Weapons (melee): Should not receive any penalty at all. They have the same dps as their pve counterparts and very well balanced stats. ilevel 146 for vengeful seems quite appropriate.

Armor: Only minor penalty is needed here imo. brutal head is on par with illidari shatterer (ilevel 141), brutal chest is superior to onslaught (ilevel 146). a penalty to make them on par with ilevel 141 gear seems quite sufficient, i have a feeling the penalty atm is significantly larger.

Similarly, vengeful isn't bad dps gear either.

enchants:
I don't agree that surefooted should receive such a low score, dexterity gets 10, while it isn't that much greater, definitely not for warriors. But I guess opinions can differ here.

Anyway, that was my constructive feedback for the warrior side of things.

Sidenote: I don't really know how the rating process works, so i might have missed some issues that might bring my gear to a lower rating then it should.

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